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After successfully raging for most of the day, breaking many pencils in half, and ranting/screaming to a considerable amount of people about the wealth of lemons being reported and deleted, I have come to this conclusion:

We can't let this get to us.

It's either the work of someone incredibly jealous of the success of lemons, a complete prude, an absolutely horrendous troll, or dA just going through and purging what they see fit. I'm sure that if it's the first three of those options, they are seeing our reactions and having an absolute blast about how badly they have affected us.

My earlier journal was immature and I should have handled the discovery of so many of my pieces being deleted much better. However, I am upset as hell, because I put heartfelt emotions in my work--lemons or not. To me...fanfiction and reader inserts are where I can be in a fantasy world to escape the pains of reality. I can pretend I know what it's like to be in love. I can pretend that the ones I'm "in love" with aren't just fictional characters. I know that sounds cheesy as fuck and probably completely and utterly stupid, but that's my take on it all.

Now to the more serious bit of my journal.

What I suggest is this: everyone go to the dA help desk and write out a complaint. Ask why lemons are wrong, when artistic nude is not. dA addresses their policy of nudity as this: Submissions depicting nudity are allowed providing that the model is eighteen (18) years of age or older and providing that the image is not determined to be obscene or pornographic as detailed elsewhere in the FAQ. All images containing nudity must be tagged as Mature Content upon submission. The deviantART staff reserves the right to mark any work with a general mature content tag if it is deemed by that staff member to require one. We strongly recommend that photographers submitting photographs of nude models have signed model release form documentation on record. While providing model release forms is not mandatory the deviantART administration reserves the right to demand such documentation at any time and to remove any work for which it is demanded but not provided. Photographs and other works depicting models under the legal age of eighteen (18) may be subject to restrictions.

Now, I'm sure we've all read the policies of "pornographic literature" with this scenario rearing its ugly head, so I won't put that in here. However, this is what I have to say.

I'm sure dA will combat our protests of allowing "artistic nude" with: "Just put your mature content on so you don't have to see it." I myself have that off, so I can go through lemons at my leisure. It's a win-lose situation, when the front page is always littered with genitalia. It disgusts me. Another jibe I'm sure a dA mod could make would be, "If you want your sexual literary content to be allowed, then those who want their artistic nude submissions will as well."

You get my point. I am certain they will find a way to twist our words into something of that sort. However, I believe it's important to let the site know that we believe their censorship policies and what they consider inappropriate is complete and absolute shit. Maybe our protests get us nowhere, but it's always better to have our concerns heard rather than stew over them in a rage.

Now, to all those who still have lemons remaining...I suggest backing them up somewhere for safe keeping, just in case. I don't think anyone is safe in this shit storm of a fiasco. I also suggest finding another site to post your smut where it will be allowed. I am going to be trying Fanfiction.net once more with my writing, and the link to my profile on that site is already somewhere in my bio on here. You see, FFN was where I started my dream of writing, and...I just miss it. I really do. It's like an old friend that I had a falling out with, and I want to try and make amends. Another site I'm going to try is Lunaescence. Once I move all of my reader inserts and smut onto that site, I will give out the link to my profile.

I'm still going to attempt to stay on dA, but I definitely make no promises with the premise of lemons or anything else that will be considered "pornographic literature." At most, I will only work on my wolf!PrussiaXReader series, Wolfsbane. I am still holding my Shifter contest, and will still write the prizes once that's all here, but none will be lemons. I really don't want the humiliation of being banned.

I'm still pissed beyond words. I won't deny that. And I'm absolutely upset that dA makes such a big deal about making people comfortable and feel welcome to the site, when really...that's all a bunch of hypocritical and controversial bullshit.

I really hope this all gets sorted out. I hope the moderators and admins of the site respond to everyone who has made a complaint (me included) and answer all our questions. I hope that we can make some sort of a difference. The cynical part of me is convinced that all of this is going to be swept under the rug, since a majority of this site revels in the "artistic nude" and other pornographic pieces yet hate on reader inserts and smut. You just can't win in today's world.
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:iconlittlegaywolf:
LittleGayWolf Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
here is a link to page with a link to a page to help protect fan fictions such as the lemons we all love and others


[link]
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smyers546 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I agree totally. My question is this though:

I have seen a pornographic story (not related to anything we write) containing the following:
-penetration
-oral sex
-anal sex
-BDSM

on the FRONT page with a daily deviation and other featured things entitled to it. I had just happened upon it and with all this happening now... I'm just wondering why they weren't taken down. They were praised for their work but we-who don't write nearly that explicitly- are punished.
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:iconmadamofcraziness:
MadamofCraziness Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
you can win sign this petition and change the rules [link]
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:iconlupus-astra:
lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I have already signed it.
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:iconmadamofcraziness:
MadamofCraziness Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Thank you so much:worship:
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clouddreamer93 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist
hey PrussianPersephone~
Lunaescence is chillaxed with M-17 smut from the reader-inserts I read so far. So is freedomofspeech (www.fos-ff.net/) and jamlyfics.com. But really is up to you if you want.
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, I've researched and chosen Lunaescence. I'm in the process of getting a hold of the site and finding time to post my smut back on.

Thanks though!
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FeartheSaxophone Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Writer
Last time I got on the site, Fanfiction.net was cracking down on authors who write lemons. Some of my favorite authors have been banned from site forever. All I can tell you is: be careful. <3
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That's why I left the site and migrated here. Because I heard it was safe.

Apparently I was wrong.

I hope Lunaescence will be okay.
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FeartheSaxophone Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Writer
*nods* I hope so too...
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KittyLavhsGreece Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My stories haven't been affected ~yet~
Someone was saying they suspected it was started by a jealous looser of a recent shower-lemon contest. Apparently it started with runner-ups and winners of the contest, but there are also many people saying they found the person. I'm kinda wondering if there's more than one person, and this kinda reminds me of L and Kira.
I'm taking your advice and backing up all my lemons and regulars alike.
This isn't cool at all, broski.. >:U
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Lucky.

I have no idea what exactly went down. All I know is that dA needs to inform people of their policies better, and not be so quick to judge.

I hope I hear from them soon.
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KittyLavhsGreece Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I wish you luck, my Hetalian broski!
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kiddopolis Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I reported him and he has been removed.
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:iconev0net: <-- That guy? The one everyone said was responsible? I didn't think he was...did he admit it? And really? He's been removed? Hory sheet.
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kiddopolis Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Yes, Ev0net. He's temporarily removed because I reported him. He wasn't just reporting things, he was swearing and abusing others.
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Catsed Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I really hope you stay on deviantart, and that you continue to post stories on here, smut and all. I hope the admins send a warning to the person who reported you, but most of all I hope you continue writing
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I don't want to continue writing smut on this site if I'm going to get reported, so I'll move it to a different site once I find one.
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The-Ninja-Artist Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
If you are going to leave deviantart (and I am kinda sad that your probably going to), what website are you planning to go to? I like reading your stories.

To tell, I dont know what started this whole thing. But whoever the person is, they must seriously be holding a grudge on the writers of Deviantart just to go out of their way to report all of these writings. It makes me mad to think that someone was doing that. I hope that Deviantart will understand our point of view on this subject and see that it should be alright and that we have to write to post our works on here without being reported.
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Fanfiction.net, though I was practically driven off because I put reader inserts there and they are not liked. So I'm going to try again, until I figure out Lunaescence for my smut.

Yeah, well, this is life. We'll probably not be lucky.
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The-Ninja-Artist Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I hope that Deviantart will see that we want to have our works on here and allow it, I mean, whats the harm in putting a specific warning for lemons? I dont have a fanfiction yet, but I am trying to. I have never heard of Lunaescence though....
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm hoping my stories will be approved on Lunaescense will be approved soon. And you know, the world is just a hypocritical bitch.
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The-Ninja-Artist Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It is.
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Nicki-Nicolatte Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
u,u I believe these are some good websites for you if you intend on leaving:
Jamlyfics.com
Lunaescence.com
FanFiction.net

And that's all...

But whoever chose to start reporting these lemons now are obviously and probably a weeaboo that's around 11-12 years old not even. And like you said, it might just be a jealous person, a complete prude, and so on.

This is honestly getting annoying and I hope this problem does get resolved. :iconcanadapoutplz:
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Already have a FFN, and I'm working on Lunaescence.

But yeah. It's bullshit and I hope the issues start getting taken care of.
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GuardianOfTheElement Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you're not staying on dA, then what website are you going to? I love reading your stories too much to stop reading them now.
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Fanfiction.net, and Lunaescence. I'll probably get kicked off of FFN when I return since I was targeted for my reader inserts, but as of now it's my only option until I figure Lunaescence out.
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GuardianOfTheElement Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ok, I'll make sure to look for them. BY the way, before I got the chance to comment on it before it was taken down, your last reader insert with Undertaker was really well done and I really liked it. I just wanted to let you know.
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spookbaby Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Aww! I'm just glad you'll stay on dA, so I can read your writings forever! <3
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:iconlupus-astra:
lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm not exactly going to stay, but I'm not going to abandon it completely if I can help it.
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spookbaby Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope you never abandon it completely, then! <3
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FlyingPastaKitty Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
TY!
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No problem.
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kalliat Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Guys, we know who it was and why they did it.

The person, ev0net, says s/he reported the stories not because of their lemony nature, but because the cover images were stolen.

Lies.

But still, please don't go and yell at them.
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:iconlupus-astra:
lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I don't think it's that person. I think it was someone jealous of not winning a lemon contest.
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kalliat Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Eh, on her profile she said she did it, BUT I do recall reading that random Hetalia lemons from the contest were reported AFTER, so perhaps it's two people.
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Point is, we are being targeted with this bullshit, and dA needs to do a better job of specifying what they consider wrong.
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kalliat Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah!

I actually looked over that rule when I started reading lemons, and I was thinking that maybe they are just too overwhelmed by the number of lemons!
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I suppose.
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vienna-kangaroo Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I've heard a lot about all this that's going around, and it sickens me. It really does. I haven't yet posted any lemons or things like that, but I've had many urges, but now I'm having second thoughts thanks to all this.
What I just want to say to you and all other lemon writers is that I'm so sorry that this had to start and end up like this. You are a brilliant writer and you don't deserve to have your work messed with like this because it's hypocritical and so wrong... how dare dA think they have the right to let this sort of thing happen? Sure, I guess lemons do bend the rules a bit, but really, what's all this compared to the absolute pornography floating around everywhere we look?

I just really do pray that this sorts itself out and we all don't end up with the rough end of the stick. I hope things get better for you, despite what the outcome ever might seem. Because you have every right to write what you wish and the dA community needs writers like you.

The best of luck to you, for whatever you decide to do. :hug:
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Lemons do go against policy. However, it's kind of hard to find that. But a lot of other things go against the rules, and they're safe, so why are we being targeted?
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vienna-kangaroo Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I agree completely. It's hypocritical and makes very little sense. And really, who actually bothers paying attention to policy anymore?
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
People who think it is their duty to monitor the sites.

People who get on my nerves.

Yes, rules are important.

But don't fucking shove it down our throats and get what we worked hard on deleted before we get a warning.
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vienna-kangaroo Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I understand; it's absolutely ridiculous. How dare they think they have a right to have the work someone put perhaps weeks of work into deleted like that? I just... there are seriously some people in this world whose necks I'd love to cut.
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ArtisticallyLiterate Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I think you came to the right decision! I'm so glad you decided not to quit! There is a petition here: [link] if you want to sign.
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I've already signed it.
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ArtisticallyLiterate Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Okay. ^^
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SayuriChou Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
A lot of people think it's: [link]

Sign a petition here: [link]
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lupus-astra Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I have already signed it, and I don't think the culprit is him.
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imagination-junkie Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
:iconlawooplz:

I'm glad you came to this conclusion! FIGHT THE POWAAA! But, yea. Hopefully this will work itself out in the end.
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